Episode 34: Crime-Obsessed Broads: An Interview With Rachel Monroe
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Why do women love true crime? Wait, no—why do people love true crime? Author Rachel Monroe comes on the podcast to deconstruct our appetite for horrifying true stories. Also covered: relating to the Manson girls, why true crime is not the same as a bowl of oatmeal, the ethics of crime scene photos, and the murky side of the victim’s rights movement. Check out Rachel’s new book, Savage Appetites: Four True Stories of Women, Crime, and Obsession today!

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Sources:

Interview with Rachel Monroe: August 28, 2019

Savage Appetites: Four True Stories of Women, Crime, and Obsession, by Rachel Monroe

Rachel’s con-man article in the Atlantic: “The Perfect Man Who Wasn’t,” April 2018 issue

The article about serial rapists we discuss: “An Epidemic of Disbelief,” by Barbara Bradley Hagerty, The Atlantic, August 2019 issue

 Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Can You Tame Wild Wimmen?” by Billy Murray, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License 

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Episode 33: Crime-Fighting Broad 005: Kathy Kleiner, Who Survived Ted Bundy
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On the night of January 15, 1978, Kathy Kleiner opened her eyes to see the serial killer Ted Bundy standing over her bed. One year later, she stared him down in the courtroom, thinking, I’m standing, now, and you’re in the bed. This is her story, in her own words.

Here’s the Vulture article about Ted Bundy that I wrote…and my profile of Kathy for Rolling Stone.

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Sources:

Interview with Kathy Kleiner: August 23, 2019 

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“Show Yourself (Living Light remix)” by Ayla Nereo, licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License and used with permission.

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Episode 32: Charlie's Angel: Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme
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Fifty years ago, a wild-eyed maniac named Charles Manson sent a gaggle of his girls into the night to murder seven people. But his most loyal girl, his second-in-command, a teenager named Squeaky Fromme, didn’t head out with the group. Since she didn’t kill for Charlie that night, she spent the rest of her life trying to prove that she was just as loyal to him—and so, long after Manson’s murderesses had disowned him, Squeaky remained.  

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Sources + music:

COMING TONIGHT.

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Episode 31: The Betrayer: Tanya Nelson
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Tanya Nelson believed everything her fortuneteller, Ha Jade Smith, told her—until Tanya’s life spiraled out of control, and Ha couldn’t seem to help her. With that, Tanya decided that someone was going to have to pay for the wreckage that was her life.

 

Someone was going to have to die.

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Sources:

“Police Seek Pair Seen Leaving the Home of Two Slain O.C. Women,” Los Angeles Times, 03 May 2005

“Seeking Clues in Shadowy World; Trying to solve killings of a fortuneteller and her daughter in Little Saigon, police ask for help understanding ethnic nuances,” Los Angeles Times, 05 May 2005

“Charges Filed in O.C. Double Slaying; North Carolina woman is being held in the slayings of fortuneteller and her daughter in Westminster. A man will be extradited, police say,” Los Angeles Times, 04 June 2005

“Man said to have confessed to slayings,” The Orange County Register, 12 April 2006

“Woman enticed accomplice into murder plot, prosecutor says,” The Orange County Register, 14 January 2010

“Witness testifies bad ‘fortune’ led to murders,” The Orange County Register, 1 February 2010

“Prosecutor: Fortune-teller, daughter killed over prediction,” The Orange County Register, 10 February 2010

“Sister of slain fortune teller breaks down,” The Orange County Register, 24 February 2010 

“Sister of murderer pleads for mercy,” The Orange County Register, 25 February 2010

“Woman sentenced to death in fortune teller slayings,” The Orange County Register, 23 April 2010

“Tanya Nelson Irks Judge Frank F. Fasel, Who Sends Double-Killer to Death Row,” OC Weekly, 26 April 2010

Music: 

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“Spirit’s Cradle ft. Leah Song,” by saQi, licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License and used with permission.

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Episode 30: Crime-Fighting Broads 004: The Nazi-Killers

There were plenty of jobs for women in WW2: nurse, ambulance driver, factory worker. But then there were the other jobs, the ones no one really talked about. Spy. Resistance fighter. Killer.

These are the stories of five women—Nadezhda Popova, Vitka Kempner, Noor Inayat Khan, Nancy Wake, and Lyudmila Pavlichenko—who fought the Nazis. They terrorized them from the sky, blew up their trains, endured their torture, rode bikes through their territory, and shot them down with their rifles. In a world that threatened to be consumed by evil, they fought back.

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Sources:

“Nadezhda Popova, WWII ‘Night Witch,’ Dies at 91,” New York Times, 14 July 2013

“Nadezhda Popova, celebrated Soviet ‘Night Witch’ aviator of World War II, dies at 91,” The Washington Post, 13 July 2013

“Vilna Jewish Partisans Led By Young Girl,” The Wisconsin Jewish Chronicle, 8 Sept 1944

“VITKA KEMPNER-KOVNER,” The Encyclopedia of Jewish Women

“Vitka Kovner, partisan, passes away at the age of 92,” Yad Vashem, 15 Feb 2012

“Overlooked No More: Noor Inayat Khan, Indian Princess and British Spy,” New York Times, 28 Nov 2018

“One Woman, Many Surprises: Pacifist Muslim, British Spy, WWII Hero,” NPR, 6 Sept 2014

“Noor Inayat Khan: The Indian princess who spied for Britain,” BBC, 8 Nov 2012

“Nancy Wake, Proud Spy and Nazi Foe, Dies at 98,” New York Times, 13 Aug 2011

“Farewell to Nancy Wake, the mouse who ran rings around the Nazis,” The Guardian, 8 Aug 2011

“War hero Nancy Wake's ashes scattered in France,” ABC Australia, 10 Mar 2013

“Eleanor Roosevelt and the Soviet Sniper,” Smithsonian, 21 Feb 2013

“The life and myths of Lyudmila Pavlichenko, Soviet Russia's deadliest sniper,” Public Radio International, 9 March 2018

“By the Numbers: End of World War II,” CNN, 2 Sept 2013

World War II Foundation (for statistics)

 Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor, Op. 16” by Sergei Rachmaninoff (Sviatoslav Richter, piano; Warsaw National Philharmonic Orchestra, Stanislaw Wislocki, cond.), via archive.org.

Samples played from “Miss Pavlichenko” by Woody Guthrie and Inglorious Bastards by Quentin Tarantino.

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Episode 29: Hyena of Auschwitz: Irma Grese

Meet Irma Grese. She likes boys, girls, movies, makeup, and sadistic torture. She hates her dad, but loves Adolf Hitler. This is horrific story of the story of how propaganda—and a large dose of teenage boredom—transformed an unskilled peasant girl into one of the Holocaust’s most successful concentration camp guards.

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Sources:

The Beautiful Beast: The Life & Crimes of SS-Aufseherin Irma Grese, by Daniel Patrick Brown

“The Violence of Female Guards in Nazi Concentration Camps (1939-1945): Reflections on the Dynamics and Logics of Power,” by Elissa Mailänder in SciencesPo

“Nazi Bride Schools: ‘These girls were the nucleus of the Reich,’” Telegraph, 16 August 2013

“Auschwitz II-Birkenau,” from Auschwitz.org

“Life for young people in Nazi Germany,” BBC Bitesize, accessed 6/31/2019

“Gendering the Holocaust: A case study of Irma Grese: Constructing the ‘evil’ and the ‘ordinary’ through digital oral testimonies and written trial testimonies of the Holocaust survivors,” by Bianka Vida, Kaleidoscope

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“Death Is Our Only God” by Silent Carrion, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 License.

Tori Telfer
Episode 28: Making a Murderess: Belva Gaertner and Beulah Annan (feat. Emilie Le Beau Lucchesi)
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History remembers them as beautiful booze-hounds. Hollywood turned them into fame-hungry starlets. But who were these murderesses, really?

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With Emilie Le Beau Lucchesi, author of UGLY PREY: An Innocent Woman and the Death Sentence That Scandalized Jazz Age Chicago, we dive into the stories of Belva Gaertner and Beulah Annan, the most infamous lady killers of 1920s Chicago. What did the press get wrong about them? What do we get wrong about them today? WHY WERE THEIR JURIES SO UTTERLY MAD? And honestly, was the whole thing just a gin-soaked joke, or were real crimes committed?  

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Sources:

Interview with Emilie Le Beau Lucchesi, 6/14/19

UGLY PREY: An Innocent Woman and the Death Sentence That Scandalized Jazz Age Chicago, by Emilie Le Beau Lucchesi

The Girls of Murder City: Fame, Lust, and the Beautiful Killers Who Inspired Chicago, by Douglas Perry

Lady Killers, by Tori Telfer

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“One Night Alone With You” via archive.org

Brief clips played for educational purposes: “Cell Block Tango” from Chicago and “Hula Lou” by Danny Kaye

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Episode 27: Crime-Fighting Broad 003: Isabella Goodwin, Detective
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The story behind New York’s first-ever female detective! In 1896, Isabella Goodwin was a quiet, hard-working police matron who wrangled murderesses, made up the prison beds, and earned about half of what her male coworkers did. As far as she knew, she’d be a police matron forever…until one day, a gruff captain called her over to his desk and asked if she’d like to take a crack at going undercover.

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Sources:

 The Fearless Mrs. Goodwin: How New York's First Female Police Detective Cracked the Crime of the Century, by Elizabeth Mitchell

“Robbers Hold Up Bank Messengers in Taxi; Steal $25,000 and Escape in an Auto,” Brooklyn Times Union, 15 Feb 1912

“The First Municipal Woman Detective in the World,” The New York Times, 3 March 1912

“Mrs. Isabella Goodwin is a Sherlock Holmes in Skirts,” Daily Long Island Democrat, 26 March 1912

“Who Mrs. Isabella Goodwin Really Is,” St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 7 April 1912

“Bandits’ Sentences Pile High,” New-York Tribune, 13 April 1912

“Woman Detective is Secret Bride,” The Standard Union, 28 Nov 1921

“Overlooked No More: Isabella Goodwin, New York City’s First Female Police Detective,” New York Times, 13 March 2019

Ticket Scalping: An American History, 1850–2005, by Kerry Segrave (p. 68)

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer.

“Shake It and Break It” by Lanin's Southern Serenaders, licensed under a Public Domain / Sound Recording Common Law Protection License

“La Traviata, Brindisi (Verdi)” by MIT Symphony Orchestra, licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial License

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Episode 26: The Duchess: Juanita Spinelli
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Juanita Spinelli ran a gang of embarrassingly awful Northern Californian crooks who could barely rob enough gas stations to stay afloat. And yet three years after forming her gang, she was walking toward the gas chamber, as citizens across the country clamored that it wasn’t right to execute a woman.

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Sources:

“Murder Ring in State Broken,” Santa Maria Times, 16 April 1940

“Robbery-Gang Killing Explained,” The Los Angeles Times, 17 April 1940

All Juanita Spinelli coverage from The San Francisco Examiner, 1940-1941

“Woman Seized as Murder Ring Head,” Leader-Telegram, 17 April 1940

“Gang is Indicted in Sacramento For Slaying of Youth,” Reno Gazette-Journal, 23 April 1940

“Aided Slayers to Save Child,” Muncie Evening Press, 25 May 1940

“’Duchess’ Gang Aid Admits Throwing Victim Into River,” Oakland Tribune, 27 May 1940

“A Woman Condemned to Die,” Lincoln News Messenger, 13 Feb 1941

“‘The Duchess’ to Die for Gang Slaying,” The Press Democrat, 19 June 1941

“Murderess Snatched from Death’s Shadow,” The Press Democrat, 20 June 1941

“Death Awaits Mrs. Spinelli,” The Los Angeles Times, 20 Nov 1941

“‘The Duchess’ Dies in Gas Chamber,” The Roseville Press, 21 Nov 1941

“Many Pleas Made For Duchess’ Life,” Oakland Tribune, 21 Nov 1941

“‘Duchess’ Quite in Execution,” Santa Cruz Evening News, 21 Nov 1941

“Aides to ‘Duchess’ Executed; Laugh and Pray at Finish,” The Los Angeles Times, 29 Nov 1941

“These Interesting People,” Oakland Tribune, 4 Nov 1946

“Big Names from the Big House,” Santa Cruz Sentinel, 17 Dec 2000

“The Death of a Duchess,” Daily News, 29 June 2003

“Timeline: Capital Punishment in California,” Southern California Public Radio

“California Death Penalty Suspended; 737 Inmates Get Stay of Execution,” New York Times, 12 March 2019

“The most notorious inmates on California's death row,” SF Gate, 13 March 2019

“These are the 737 inmates on California's death row,” LA Times, 13 March 2019

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer.

“Me and the Blues,” sung by Mildred Bailey, from archive.org

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Episode 25: Woman of Seven Faces: Kazuko Fukuda
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In 1982, Kazuko Fukuda strangled her coworker, changed her name, and went on the run—for fifteen years. She was playing a game of chicken with the law, trying to stay free until the statute of limitations for her crime ran out. To do this, she had to go under the knife.

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Sources:

Crime stats for Japan and the US: The Japanese Industrial System (De Gruyter Studies in Organization, 3rd Edition), Page 46, and “The U.S. Murder Rate Is Up But Still Far Below Its 1980 Peak,” FiveThirtyEight, 25 Sept 2017

“Staying Healthy in Japan: Jujin Hospital,” Tokyo Weekender,  20 May 1888

“A Modest Proposal for Capturing Fugitives,” The Japan Times, Aug 07, 1997

“Informant donates reward to charity,” The Japan Times, 24 Aug 1997

“After 14 years on run, murder suspect arrested,” The Japan Times, 30 Jul 1997

 “Japanese police scramble to catch up with criminals,” The Washington Post, Tokyo, 13 September 1997

“Ex-fugitive admits killing,” The Japan Times, 28 Oct 1997

“Life term for ex-fugitive upheld,” The Japan Times, 14 Dec 2000

“The rules of hostessing,” Japan Today, 3 November 2009

“Japan: Statute of Limitations for Murder Abolished,” Global Legal Monitor, The Law Library of Congress, 21 May 2010

“Heisei flashback: Kazuko Fukuda, ‘The Woman of Seven Faces,’” Tokyo Reporter, 19 April 2019

Music:

“Guilty” by Richard A. Whiting, Harry Akst, and Gus Kahn, sung by Anna Telfer.

“Moon-kana – Tsuki Kinoko (Yaka-anima Slow Mix)” by Yaka-anima from Broken Doll (2018), used with permission from archive.org under license Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 4.0 International.

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